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Re: Lifeline closing?
« Reply #60 on: August 02, 2017, 11:23:13 AM »
I'm not as bad as that Sapphire but close.  I have one thin vein in my arm that they use in the Warferin Clinic for bloods.  I had to have a clonoscopy and a endoscopy a few months back.  I was very anxious about the pre-meds [Fentanyl and Midazolam] I mentioned it to the nurse admitting me, she said well if they cannot get access you will have to do without the meds.

There was no way that was happening!  The nurses in the theatre were much nicer and managed to get it into that thin vein.  I didn't think it would have taken an injection.  I will only let my GP take bloods at his surgery I won't let the practice nurses near me and the warfein clinic has to use butterflys.  They will not consider using other sites here.

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« Reply #61 on: August 04, 2017, 03:23:39 PM »
I consider myself quite lucky, the Pain Cons is a dab hand & can still get in the back of one of my hands. Once I said that I would go for the  spinal injection without sedation if it meant I could get out of there quicker, he talked me out of it, told me that I could go as soon as I felt able. I'm always fairly disappointed with the effect of the pre-meds & asked once if they could leave the cannula in for me if I promised to take it out later.
Fuckin idiot. I suppose the premeds must have some effect, otherwise I wouldn't of asked such a stupid question.
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« Reply #62 on: August 04, 2017, 09:49:55 PM »
I consider myself quite lucky, the Pain Cons is a dab hand & can still get in the back of one of my hands. Once I said that I would go for the  spinal injection without sedation if it meant I could get out of there quicker, he talked me out of it, told me that I could go as soon as I felt able. I'm always fairly disappointed with the effect of the pre-meds & asked once if they could leave the cannula in for me if I promised to take it out later.
Fuckin idiot. I suppose the premeds must have some effect, otherwise I wouldn't of asked such a stupid question.
I was a bit disinhibited when I had the IV stuff, wasn't pleasant, wish they'd given me a pre-med to take before I went. Took me a good few days to recover and must be first time I've been off sick in 20yrs, hate shirking. Think really I went back a bit soon but it took me three days before I was good enough to go back to work. Wouldn't consider not having sedation, did cry out one side when he hit the nerve, would've been agony I bet without the drugs.

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« Reply #63 on: August 05, 2017, 03:00:03 PM »
Eek, that doesn't sound pleasant Simon. Mr Sapph desperately needs blood taking, and arterial US the only choice left now, but he's built it all up into a big thing in his head after all the painful poking and prodding he's had to endure the last few times anyone's attempted to get blood from him.

Then they get a bit, send it to the lab, and the kab say "sorry it's not enough to run all the tests", so instead of running some with whatblood they have,they run none and dispose of the blood, making the whole exercise utterly fruitless.

I cannot understand how so much of our NHS is so amazing, even with all the pressure its under,and yet parts of it are completely and utterly incompetent. It's a shame, as you never hear about the 99% doing a stellar job,you only ever hear about the 1% who are complete tools and couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery, :(

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« Reply #64 on: August 05, 2017, 06:16:14 PM »
Eek, that doesn't sound pleasant Simon. Mr Sapph desperately needs blood taking, and arterial US the only choice left now, but he's built it all up into a big thing in his head after all the painful poking and prodding he's had to endure the last few times anyone's attempted to get blood from him.

Then they get a bit, send it to the lab, and the kab say "sorry it's not enough to run all the tests", so instead of running some with whatblood they have,they run none and dispose of the blood, making the whole exercise utterly fruitless.

I cannot understand how so much of our NHS is so amazing, even with all the pressure its under,and yet parts of it are completely and utterly incompetent. It's a shame, as you never hear about the 99% doing a stellar job,you only ever hear about the 1% who are complete tools and couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery, :(
I write begging letters on lab forms, really sorry, poor venous acccess, several attempts, please do what you can X test is most important, thank you

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« Reply #65 on: August 07, 2017, 04:32:01 PM »
I'm not surprised that he's got himself worked up Sapph, they should try to whatever they can with the amount of blood they get rather than just binning it. I suppose that's maybe not cost effective but neither is having so many attempts at taking blood. I assume that it's a well trained specialist doing the job & not a junior DR practising. I know they need to get hands on experience, but saying that I've seen more perspiration on a junior Dr's brow than the patients as they attempt to take blood from people with decent veins. Quite often think to myself that at least they can use both hands unlike many of us who learnt how to get a vein with only one hand available.
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« Reply #66 on: August 18, 2017, 11:34:57 AM »
That's a good idea Simon, at least that way hopefully they won't throw away what blood they might get in the future.

He's so worried that he's just ignoring what the Dr's telling him, and not going to the path lab to get the bloods done. It's very frustrating, as I'm worried about his health.

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« Reply #67 on: August 29, 2017, 03:34:12 AM »
I no longer let anyone attempt to take bloods without an ultrasound machine. Even then they often can't get an IV in my arms (and I don't mind being stabbed at!). I've now got it written all over my notes I have awful venous access and to get the anaesthetist to go for neck or femoral with U/S.

I really sympathise with your hubby Sapphire. It is horrible being stabbed at and stabbed at, even as an ex-user and I find the worst part is being seen as some kind of spectacle or when the resident over confident vampire is certain they will get a line in. And of course fails!

Does Mr sapp have decent veins in his neck? My femorals hit and miss, but they have never had a problem with my neck - and I was a neck injecter of cyclizine tablets. They use local anaesthetic so it isn't bad. If I was him I would speak to his dr/specialist and demand that the bloods are only attempted with ultrasound and if needed go for the large veins.

Sorry I know this isn't the most recent thread, the boards are a bit dead 😀

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« Reply #68 on: August 30, 2017, 03:44:37 PM »
Your right, the whole forum is a bit dead even though it's got nearly everything you'd want to know about O.S.T. & addiction on it somewhere.
Is there really only 10-20 people in the whole of the UK who aren't 100% happy with their treatment ? Does every CGL patient want Recovery, or are they just killing them off.
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« Reply #69 on: September 01, 2017, 11:20:28 AM »
I've not heard of that SV, an ultrasound machine being used,but now I know about it, I'm going to ask very firmly, that they have one present for Mr Sapph. Thank you so much for the suggestion!  ;D

I really hope it works or its back to taking arterial blood, and he hates that as its very uncomfortable and it hurts!

As far as the forum goes, I think we should move it to a format that's  more accessible to phones/tablets etc, as this version is terrible for that!

The problem us that its a lot of work and I'm unsure I can do it properly without technical help.